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. >> reporter: that's wayne lapierre in 1999. he, of course, is basically the chief voice of the nra still today. he was on fox news sunday, this morning. he was indicating his opposition to universal background checks. obviously. it's not what he said in 1999. his fear is there would be a gun registry and the government would insert itself in what should be a private matter for individuals. >> that radical change of thought. you know the picture that jay carney tweeted, a lot of people were talking about it. >> reporter: there were a lot of people talking on it. if you go on social media, i'm sure you heard about the skeet shooting. we reached out to the nra after that photo was put out. one picture does not erase a lifetime of supporting every gun ban and every gun control scheme available. the white house would challenge that characterization of the president's policies on guns. he is a strong supporter of the second amendment. >> many thanks as always. >>> new on "meet the press," panetta gave his confirmation to chuck hagel.
. >> reporter: that's wayne lapierre in 1999. he, of course, is basically the chief voice of the nra still today. he was on fox news sunday, this morning. he was indicating his opposition to universal background checks. obviously. it's not what he said in 1999. his fear is there would be a gun registry and the government would insert itself in what should be a private matter for individuals. >> that radical change of thought. you know the picture that jay carney tweeted, a lot of...
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>>chris: the head of the n.r.a., wayne lapierre. what do we do when something that's hard to paint, really wants to be painted? we break out new behr ultra with stain-blocker from the home depot... ...the best selling paint and primer in one that now eliminates stains. so it paints over stained surfaces, scuffed surfaces, just about any surface. what do you say we go where no paint has gone before, and end up some place beautiful. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. behr ultra. now with advanced stain blocking, only at the home depot, and only $31.98 a gallon. >>chris: mr. lapierre thanks for join us. you heard captain talking about the background checks and since 19991.7 million people have failed background checks and been denied guns. i know you point out criminals the not go through the background checks there are other ways, a black market will be out there to get guns but if 1.7 million people have already been denied guns, doesn't that make people safer? >>guest: i have all the respect in the world fo
>>chris: the head of the n.r.a., wayne lapierre. what do we do when something that's hard to paint, really wants to be painted? we break out new behr ultra with stain-blocker from the home depot... ...the best selling paint and primer in one that now eliminates stains. so it paints over stained surfaces, scuffed surfaces, just about any surface. what do you say we go where no paint has gone before, and end up some place beautiful. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home...
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>>chris: the head of the n.r.a., wayne lapierre. what do we do when something that's hard to paint, really wants to be painted? we break out new behr ultra with stain-blocker from the home depot... ...the best selling paint and primer in one that now eliminates stains. so it paints over stained surfaces, scuffed surfaces, just about any surface. what do you say we go where no paint has gone before, and end up some place beautiful. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. behr ultra. now with advanced stain blocking, only at the home depot, and only $31.98 a gallon. thyou eat less...ing weiyou lose weight.et. it's a great plan... until you get hungry. that's the time to take slimful. one tasty 90-calorie slimful and a glass of water satisfies hunger for hours making it easier to eat smaller meals, and resist snacking. your friends might think you found the secret to losing weight. but it's no secret... it's slimful. eating less is a beautiful thing. >>chris: mr. lapierre thanks for join us. you heard captain talki
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. >> doesn't wayne lapierre have a point though? background checks cannot keep a criminalrom using a gun. >> under that theory, we have lost about murder. they are going to kill people anyway. wayne lapierre and the nra used to support universal background check 10 years ago or so. >> what happened? >> i do not understand it. they have become more unreasonable, i would say. i do not think we are going to get much of anything now. but this is not going away. >> nina is right. it is rather fascinating to watch the dynamic of t thehe nra, at this point. david cain the president, the white-haired man, is the good cop. longtime conservative leader. a longtime nra board member. he has actually come out for universal background checks. lapierre is the more strident, more bombasticic, take no prisoners. this is a losing fight for the nra. if we punish people fomaking false statements on mortgage applications that some bank will be hurt, when itit comes to gun that is even more serious. >> i think the background check will pass, over 90% app
. >> doesn't wayne lapierre have a point though? background checks cannot keep a criminalrom using a gun. >> under that theory, we have lost about murder. they are going to kill people anyway. wayne lapierre and the nra used to support universal background check 10 years ago or so. >> what happened? >> i do not understand it. they have become more unreasonable, i would say. i do not think we are going to get much of anything now. but this is not going away. >> nina...
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and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it. don't hurt our party anymore. let wayne lapierre go wherever he wants to go. he's going to destroy the party. we're going to talk about the crazy op-ed has horrible for our party's image, horrible for the conservative movement's image, goes against everything ronald reagan stood for. we'll talk about that in a minute. first, breaking news. this is bizarre. the feel-good story of the olympic games involved in possibly murder. >> this was a total jaw-dropper this morning. oscar pistorius, for those people who don't know, is a south african runn
and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it....
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and i want to talk to you about the op-ed that wayne lapierre. where he lays out his case for owning a gun, his reasons why. i want you to take a listen to joe read that piece. >> if the country is broke, there likely won't be enough money to pay for police protection and the american people know it. hurricanes, tornadoes, riots, terrorists, gangs, lone criminals, these are the perils we are sure to face, not just maybe. >> so joe went on to say this op-ed was laced with racist undertones and you had taken a mom who lost her son to the state of the union address as your plus one. how do you think your republican colleagues can stand behind the voice of the nra continually when they seem to be on the fringe of the argument and the debate itself? >> well, joe scarborough had it exactly right this morning. what the nra is doing is once again engaging in the scare tactics and trying to avoid focusing on the actual proposals that we've put before the congress. i took carol price to the state of the union. she lost her son in a tragic accidental gun sh
and i want to talk to you about the op-ed that wayne lapierre. where he lays out his case for owning a gun, his reasons why. i want you to take a listen to joe read that piece. >> if the country is broke, there likely won't be enough money to pay for police protection and the american people know it. hurricanes, tornadoes, riots, terrorists, gangs, lone criminals, these are the perils we are sure to face, not just maybe. >> so joe went on to say this op-ed was laced with racist...
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wayne lapierre of the national rifle association. you ever wonder why everything he says seems increasingly inflammatory? it's not that he is dumb. it's not that he doesn't know what is going to upset you when you listen to a speech or a sound bite from him. the national rifle association exists to bug you. the national rifle association exists to make you think of him, to make you pay attention to him and to the nra instead of to the industry that pays the nra to be their heat shield. nobody knows the names of the ceos of the manufacturing companies in this country that make guns. nobody knows who runs the various gun companies and the accessories companies who makes those extended magazines anyway. nobody knows who those guys are. but everybody knows who wayne lapierre is. he wants you to hate him. that's his job. and i think that wayne lapierre and the nra are not even in this to win elections, which is why they stay in business despite a winning record of 1%. wayne lapierre exist to make you think of anything other than the maker
wayne lapierre of the national rifle association. you ever wonder why everything he says seems increasingly inflammatory? it's not that he is dumb. it's not that he doesn't know what is going to upset you when you listen to a speech or a sound bite from him. the national rifle association exists to bug you. the national rifle association exists to make you think of him, to make you pay attention to him and to the nra instead of to the industry that pays the nra to be their heat shield. nobody...
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lapierre supporting a background check. here is a little bit of that ad. >> the nra once supported background checks. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> all right. i'll admit i need quick answers here. can a southern republican vote for the background check bill and get re-elected? >> a licensed dealer at a gun show already does a background check. that's already going on. what we're talking about is antique and special collectors and private sales. i think that's very difficult to legislate properly without killing gun show. >> there is a rural split almost more than anything else. urban politics are more supportive of this idea. >> yes. but i think both the southern republican and the urban republican should all be voting for universal background checks. look, connecticut was a game changer. we need to understand that. the gun issue is here. it's not going away. every other day, we are hearing about a tr
lapierre supporting a background check. here is a little bit of that ad. >> the nra once supported background checks. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> all right. i'll admit i need quick answers here. can a southern republican vote for the background check bill and get re-elected? >> a licensed dealer at a gun show already does a background check....
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your article details how wayne lapierre took the nra from a group that represented gun owners not one supported by and supportive of the gun industry. can you explain to the viewers the element of money that's in play here? >> well, the nra is a dark money group. it doesn't have to disclose its dono donors, but apparently it's good pr for a number of gun makers to be affiliated with the nra. that we know about that the nra has disclosed we know about millions. they have the golden ring of freedom and they have access to wayne lapierre and help shape policy. >> the yoshths has a wonderful piece on how a brilliant marketing campaign has made thea r-15 is best selling gun while slate recently estimated that assault rifles represent a half billion dollar industry. now, just to be clear, this isn't about children. this isn't about the second amendment for the nra. this is about corporate profits, isn't it? it's about making money for gun manufacturers. >> that's right. and i would commend tim's article to everyone. it's a superb piece. it's a very important piece. i think you put your fing
your article details how wayne lapierre took the nra from a group that represented gun owners not one supported by and supportive of the gun industry. can you explain to the viewers the element of money that's in play here? >> well, the nra is a dark money group. it doesn't have to disclose its dono donors, but apparently it's good pr for a number of gun makers to be affiliated with the nra. that we know about that the nra has disclosed we know about millions. they have the golden ring of...
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. >> andy, nra ceo wayne lapierre spoke last night and his organization released a new ad. >> they don't make us free. we're free already. and as long as we have the second amendment, we always will be. we are america, and our politicians are only as powerful as we, the people, allow them to be. >> the message from the nra just doesn't change. how much influence does it still have? >> it doesn't have influence with television ads like that. i mean, that's an ad that they put out there, i mean, tries to appeal to patriotism or appeal to something, i'm not really quite sure. but the nra as a political entity, as an outside group, they do have power. it's not a power wielded with ads like that. it's power wielded in republican primaries, it's power wielded with the threat of mobilizing nra members, to, you know, knock on doors and try to, you know, get someone thrown out of office whether in the primary or the general election. that is where the far naer's might is really felt. now we're seeing folks on the other side sort of pop up to counter that. mayor mike bloomberg's superpac, but the
. >> andy, nra ceo wayne lapierre spoke last night and his organization released a new ad. >> they don't make us free. we're free already. and as long as we have the second amendment, we always will be. we are america, and our politicians are only as powerful as we, the people, allow them to be. >> the message from the nra just doesn't change. how much influence does it still have? >> it doesn't have influence with television ads like that. i mean, that's an ad that they...
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wayne lapierre and the nra used to support universal background check 10 years ago or so. >> what happened? >> i do not really understand it. they have become more unreasonable, i would say. i do not think we are going to get much of anything now, but this is not going away. >> mean that is right. it is fasciting to watch the dynamic of the nra, at this point. david cain, he is sort of the good cop, the president's of the organization. longtime conservative leader. he is a longtime nra board member. he has actually come out for universal background check. lapierre is the more strident, bombastic, take no prisoners. this is a losing fight for the nra. if we punish people for making false statements on mortgage applications, some bank will be hurt. when it comes down to a gun, this is more serious. >> charles? >> i think the background check will pass. 90% approval in public opinion polls. maybe the size of the magazine clip. a limit of 10. on the assault weapons ban, ich a recapitulation to what we tried in 1994, is not likely to pass, but in the end, it would not make a difference. the pro
wayne lapierre and the nra used to support universal background check 10 years ago or so. >> what happened? >> i do not really understand it. they have become more unreasonable, i would say. i do not think we are going to get much of anything now, but this is not going away. >> mean that is right. it is fasciting to watch the dynamic of the nra, at this point. david cain, he is sort of the good cop, the president's of the organization. longtime conservative leader. he is a...
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>> wayne lapierre is representing his organization. whether he's trying to fold into his organization. >> long identified with the gop. >> there's a difference between the nra and the rnc. he's doing what he's paid to do and representing it. the nice thing the democrats are doing are lopping the two groups together so i do understand that he's long supported a lot of republican candidates and a lot of democrat candidates, too. >> sure. >> he's got a fight to fight, he's wrong on some issues and right on some issues but certainly he has led his organization in articulating what their message is. >> what does lapierre do for the republican party, chris kofinis? >> damage them. the only thing he didn't mention in the op-ed was the zombie apocalypse. at some point in all seriousness these are difficult issues. i worked for a senator who was an nra "a" rating member so i understand the difficulty especially if you come from a rural state there are different perspectives. my preference is we clearly have to honor and respect the second amend
>> wayne lapierre is representing his organization. whether he's trying to fold into his organization. >> long identified with the gop. >> there's a difference between the nra and the rnc. he's doing what he's paid to do and representing it. the nice thing the democrats are doing are lopping the two groups together so i do understand that he's long supported a lot of republican candidates and a lot of democrat candidates, too. >> sure. >> he's got a fight to fight,...
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i learned that, let's see, wayne lapierre is extreme on guns and paul krugman is extreme on debt. they sort of occupy their own alternative universeses and the question is whether the republicans are going to have the guts to stand up to lapierre and whether democrats will be strong enough to walk away from krugman. but we'll see what happens. if it's way too early, what time is it? >> it's time for "morning joe". >> tell us. >> it's time for "morning joe," but now it's time for "the daily rundown" with chuck todd. have a great day. happy valentine's day! >>> the posturing around chuck hagel's nomination for a defense secretary, well, it's getting murkier by the minute. are republicans gearing up to deny an up or down vote for the pentagon kick before the weekend? >>> president obama's road show policy push hits atlanta today and we'll take a deep dive into the options and odds of the president having to fall back on executive actions, because his policies won't go anywhere in congress. >>> and the republican ruckus over karl rove's conservative counter-strategy is reaching a bit
i learned that, let's see, wayne lapierre is extreme on guns and paul krugman is extreme on debt. they sort of occupy their own alternative universeses and the question is whether the republicans are going to have the guts to stand up to lapierre and whether democrats will be strong enough to walk away from krugman. but we'll see what happens. if it's way too early, what time is it? >> it's time for "morning joe". >> tell us. >> it's time for "morning joe,"...
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. >> jim, your latest article is about wayne lapierre's state of the union response. here's part of that. >> we will not be duped by the hypocrisy in the white house or the congress who would deny our right to semiautomatic technology and the magazines we need to defend ourselves and our families. >> it would seem, jim, that no measure of public sentiment can way the nra message. obviously they don't care, right? >> well, i saw that speech as playing to his base, conspiratorial, to put it vaguely. but there are new forces coalescing against them. it's not just president obama who's smart enough and, like susan suggests, knows there will probably be limited gains legislatively in congress. maybe background checks but not much beyond that. but he also knows he's got folks like michael bloomberg getting very serious about going after the nra. in the back yard of that same speech yesterday which was in parts fairly pointed. you've got mayor bloomberg throwing a minimum of $1.5 million into a special congressional race to replace jesse jackson, jr., who pled yesterday. he'
. >> jim, your latest article is about wayne lapierre's state of the union response. here's part of that. >> we will not be duped by the hypocrisy in the white house or the congress who would deny our right to semiautomatic technology and the magazines we need to defend ourselves and our families. >> it would seem, jim, that no measure of public sentiment can way the nra message. obviously they don't care, right? >> well, i saw that speech as playing to his base,...
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for us. >> the point of that is that wayne lapierre, the nra head, now is against universal background checks. specifically he said this morning that they could lead to a universal registry of gun owners, something he says the nra opposes. >> peter alexander from 1600 pennsylvania for us. thank you, sir. >>> a reward for information in the sleiaying of a chicago teenager is at $40,000. there was a march saturday in memory of hadiya pendleton. the 15-year-old was shot and killed tuesday in a park with her friends. i want to bring in reverend al sharpton, host of msnbc's "politics nation." also president of the national action network as well. let's talk about hadiya first. recently got back from washington. she just performed at president obama's inauguration. for folks who don't know the story, who aren't familiar with this little girl, what can you tell us? >> 15 years old, honor student. as you said, performed at the president's inaugural festivities. went home, was on her way in a month or so to paris. and was killed. apparently standing under a petition that was, you know, there fo
for us. >> the point of that is that wayne lapierre, the nra head, now is against universal background checks. specifically he said this morning that they could lead to a universal registry of gun owners, something he says the nra opposes. >> peter alexander from 1600 pennsylvania for us. thank you, sir. >>> a reward for information in the sleiaying of a chicago teenager is at $40,000. there was a march saturday in memory of hadiya pendleton. the 15-year-old was shot and...
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as we've heard from nra's wayne lapierre that is something that they are not for, in fact the nra has gone so far as to say it's in the in support of any restrictions at all whatsoever on guns. martha,. martha: we know that the president, kelly is going to run into headwinds even with democrats in congress on this issue. what is his plan to try to get it through? >> reporter: i think we are seeing that plan start taking shape today with his trip to minneapolis. the president will likely continue these campaign-style stops at various cities that have been plagued with gun control, minneapolis being one of them and already taking action of course to deal with this gun control problem, the gun violence in that city. the president will continue to push for this. he will not try to introduce any legislation himself, he wants congress to do that e wants congress to step up to the table and go ahead and offer some of its plans that he has in place. the president would like to see congress act or enact a ban on assault weapons, high kpwas te capacity magazines and a universal background check
as we've heard from nra's wayne lapierre that is something that they are not for, in fact the nra has gone so far as to say it's in the in support of any restrictions at all whatsoever on guns. martha,. martha: we know that the president, kelly is going to run into headwinds even with democrats in congress on this issue. what is his plan to try to get it through? >> reporter: i think we are seeing that plan start taking shape today with his trip to minneapolis. the president will likely...
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lapierre says. >> what's wrong with that? >> rose: nothing, i'm just making a point. that ice his principle part of his speech. >> the republican party today has got some problems, obviously. it's got to reach out -- and they're saying it. ey've got to chae. ericantor is saying it, marco rubio is saying it, paul ryan is saying it, governor jindal is saying it. the question is how do you think the republican party has to change? >> i'm not one of those who believes that our philosophy is somehow fundamentally flawed or that we need to be more like democrats. democrats love to tell us that if you guys would just be like us you'll win elections. well, i remember one of the low points of my career was on the morning after the '76 election jerry ford had lost his voice and i had to get on the telephone with the president and read the president's concession statement to jimmy carter. that hurt, i do not enjoy that moment. but it also it was beginning, if you will, of what became the reagan revolution in the sense that those four ye
lapierre says. >> what's wrong with that? >> rose: nothing, i'm just making a point. that ice his principle part of his speech. >> the republican party today has got some problems, obviously. it's got to reach out -- and they're saying it. ey've got to chae. ericantor is saying it, marco rubio is saying it, paul ryan is saying it, governor jindal is saying it. the question is how do you think the republican party has to change? >> i'm not one of those who believes that...
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lapierre over the weekend out west was really going after you personally. let me play that. >> i've been amazed, just amazed, at how rapidly this debate deteriorated from what is proven to work to what is proven to be the political agenda of those bent on attacking the second amendment to our constitution. dianne feinstein herself commented that she's had her gun ban legislation on her desk for over a year waiting for the right time to introduce it. >> what would you like to say back to wayne la pierre? >> what i said is that we have been working on this for a year. it's a rather complicated piece of legislation because it exempts 2,200 hunting, sporting weapons by make and model, and that took some work of staff and consultation with real gun experts to be sure that we could be correct on all counts, so it wasn't a bill just quickly slapped together. it had some thoughtful consideration. we have a hearing coming up wednesday. we have a number of witnesses. i think we will make the case that this is constitutional. i think we will make the case that these w
lapierre over the weekend out west was really going after you personally. let me play that. >> i've been amazed, just amazed, at how rapidly this debate deteriorated from what is proven to work to what is proven to be the political agenda of those bent on attacking the second amendment to our constitution. dianne feinstein herself commented that she's had her gun ban legislation on her desk for over a year waiting for the right time to introduce it. >> what would you like to say...
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>> you know, the thing is, you've got wayne lapierre. >> yeah. >> who really was a lot closer to where americans are today. >> almost aware. >> than he is right now. because 92% of americans want universal background checks. i think that's coming. >> all right. meanwhile, president obama gained an ally in his efforts to pass new gun legislation in the wake of the newtown shootings. congressman joe heck, republican from nevada, backed universal background checks for firearms saying, quote, i think the idea of background checks across the board, i'm not opposed to them. and i disagree with people who say that this is going to be the first step to gun registration, which leads to gun con physician indication. c con physician >> they go through a background check. and guess what? they're not part of a national registry. >> right. >> nobody's coming to get their guns. the black helicopters around circling their house. nobody's taking their livestock. you can do this. you can make sure that felons can't walk into a gun store or go to a gun show and buy weapons. >> this is one of the points t
>> you know, the thing is, you've got wayne lapierre. >> yeah. >> who really was a lot closer to where americans are today. >> almost aware. >> than he is right now. because 92% of americans want universal background checks. i think that's coming. >> all right. meanwhile, president obama gained an ally in his efforts to pass new gun legislation in the wake of the newtown shootings. congressman joe heck, republican from nevada, backed universal background...
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that lindsey graham knows full well, wayne lapierre knows full well, gayle trotter knows full well and sheldon whitehouse asked a question which lapierre ducked. if you talk to hard core members of the nra, they will admit, as senator whitehouse said, they will admit you don't need an ar-15 to defend your home or go hunting or go target shooting or anything else. they want those guns because the police have those guns. and they believe that they will have to fight the police, and they want to be as heavily armed as the police when that happens. that is the underlying philosophy. >> so they think in terms of a barricade situation where it's them against the law. >> absolutely. >> congresswoman, that is new. it used to be they would say we're sportsmen, we're hunters, and then they would say whatever, self-protection if you live in a tough neighborhood or whatever. now they openly say we have to fight the government. that's pretty close to insurrection time, isn't it? we have to be ready to fight the government? >> this is what we've been hearing for a couple months, to be very honest wi
that lindsey graham knows full well, wayne lapierre knows full well, gayle trotter knows full well and sheldon whitehouse asked a question which lapierre ducked. if you talk to hard core members of the nra, they will admit, as senator whitehouse said, they will admit you don't need an ar-15 to defend your home or go hunting or go target shooting or anything else. they want those guns because the police have those guns. and they believe that they will have to fight the police, and they want to...